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Traffic Committee Summary Held at 6:00 p.m. Tuesday, January 28, 2003 in the Public Works Conference Room located at 300 N New Ballas Road Creve Coeur, MO 63141 |
MEMBERS PRESENT:
SCOTT
SAUNDERS, CHAIRMAN
ROBERT
HADDENHORST, MEMBER
TIM
MADDEN, MEMBER
JOHN
SURGANT, MEMBER
JOHN
BEARDSLEE, POLICE CHIEF
GLENNON
EIDMAN, LIEUTENANT
BILL
SCHWER, ASST. CITY ENGINEER
FRED
LAGOS, COUNCIL MEMBER LIAISON
MEMBERS ABSENT:
FRED
LOHMANN, MEMBER
JOHN
GREIDER, MEMBER
LOREN
LOHMAN, MEMBER
CONNIE
PARISH, OFFICE ASSOCIATE
The meeting was called to order by Mr. Saunders at 6:28 p.m. and roll was taken.
Review summary of the Tuesday, December 10, 2002 meeting. Mr. Saunders requested the committee to review the minutes. Lt. Eidman had a modification to item a) Discuss Traffic Calming Request, under II. New Business. The minutes had read ”Lt. Eidman stated that the Police Department has done several traffic counts there and speed and volume are very low on Hibler Road. He will forward a copy of the results to the Council. The corrected sentence reads “Lt. Eidman stated that the Police Department had done several traffic counts. A new survey will be done to determine the speed and volume on Hibler Road”. Mr. Madden motioned to accept the minutes with this correction; Mr. Surgant seconded the motion and the motion passed unanimously.
II. DISCUSS NEW BUSINESS:
A)
“Lunchtime”
shuttle service information
Mr. Saunders requested that this item be deferred until the February 25, 2003 meeting. The Chamber of Commerce representative(s) were unable to attend the meeting.
B)
Discuss Chasselle one-way plan
Lt. Eidman
explained that the Mason/Ladue intersection project contract is for twenty
working days. The project should be
completed in late April, early May.
Chief Beardslee explained that the memorandum that was distributed to
the Council in December stated that the construction schedule should be
considered when making a decision on whether to implement the one way
plan. With the construction improvements
to the Mason /Ladue Road intersection, unforeseen traffic issues could arise.
By changing Chasselle to one way between the roundabouts, in combination with
the improvements previously mentioned, the traffic congestion implications are
unknown. Mr. Saunders stated that if the
majority of the traffic is presumably during rush hour, which are restricted
times of access to Chasselle anyway, why would the limited amount of
construction traffic cause significant traffic problems. Mr. Surgant suggested a compromise. The one way could be implemented in March.
Discussion followed describing that by implementing these improvements in
March, we are less likely to encounter snow.
Also, it was suggested that the Police Department obtain traffic data on
Chasselle in mid February to determine how the construction at Ladue/Mason is
affecting the subdivision. Mr. Madden
made a motion to execute the one way on Chasselle commencing March 1, 2003. Mr. Surgant seconded and motion and the
motion passed unanimously.
C)
Discussion of the Westminster stop sign and
traffic control (including the review of prior staff report)
Chief Beardslee
advised of the Council’s request to have the Traffic Committee review the
situation. He then gave an overview of the complaints, research and
alternatives considered prior to and since installation of the Westminster
School Stop Signs. He explained that the installation of the stop signs was to
mitigate a traffic volume issue that was a safety concern. He advised that
speed compliance was not an issue. The school wanted an electric traffic
signal. The Chief advised that the only alternative supported by objective
criteria and the guidebook for traffic practices was installation of stop
signs. Mr. Madden explained that the stop signs are operating well. The benefits of the signs outweigh the
limited inconvenience. A motion was made
by Mr. Surgant to keep the stop signs in place and to consider modifying the
time of sign operation as indicated in a recent memo from the Chief. Mr. Haddenhorst seconded the motion and the
motion passed unanimously.
D)
Discuss
possible locations/areas/intersections to apply traffic generation assessments
(TGA’s)
Mr. Schwer
explained that St. Louis County has current standards that require owners that
build in designated areas to contribute a traffic impact fee to help pay for
public infrastructure improvements. An
explanation of the details of a traffic impact fee was distributed to the
members. Mr. Schwer explained that the
Planning and Zoning Commission requested input from the traffic Committee
regarding the policy itself, as well as, possible Creve Coeur intersections
that could benefit from such fees. Mr.
Haddenhorst described that this could be an undue hardship for new
businesses. This type of fee could
contribute to increased vacancies. The
Committee would like to review information on this subject that relates to
cities that are comparable to Creve Coeur and have executed this program. Also, the Committee would like a
representative of the Planning & Zoning Department to attend the February
25, 2003 meeting to discuss this proposal in more detail.
E)
Discuss traffic calming requests
No requests to
report
III.
DISCUSS OLD
BUSINESS:
Nothing to discuss
Next meeting is scheduled for February 25, 2003 at 6:00p.m.
V.
ADJOURNMENT
AT 7:20 PM
Mr. Madden made a motion to adjourn.
Mr. Haddenhorst seconded the motion and the motion passed unanimously.
Minutes recorded by: Bill Schwer